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Q: I've seen
Guinness sold in Germany even when the Reinheitsgebot
applied to imported beers. How can that be?
A:
"In line with the
German Purity Law, the barley is replaced with pale and roasted
malt in Continental Europe." (MJBC p 181)
Q: What types
of Guinness are there?
A: MJ states
5 or 6 main types in 19 variations. So far, we've been able to identify
(Detailed specifications are listed in the last section of this FAQ):
- Draught
Guinness (Ireland, NA), is smooth full-bodied and creamy. Despite
its body, it is a rather mild beer (OG 1039, 3.4% abw, 4.2% abv). This
beer is pasteurized. There are many local variations of this product.
The canned Pub
Draught Guinness using the draught-flow ™ system is a packaged
version of this beer. (Note: I have been challenged from several
quarters for saying that Irish draught Guinness is pasteurized. The
above assertion is contained in Michael Jackson's Beer Companion.
Quoting from page 182, first column, last paragraph in the column:
"Draught Guinness for the Irish and American markets ... (specs
omitted) ... is flash pasteurized." Until someone can
prove me wrong, the statement above will stand.)
- Bottle
Conditioned Guinness (Ireland) had similar specifications to the
Draught Guinness, but the presence of the yeast provides for a "...spicier,
fruitier, drier, more complex and lively, fresh character." (MJBC,
182)
- Bottled Guinness (Britain) has similar specifications
to the above two beers, but it is pasteurized.
- All
Malt Guinness (Continental Europe) is available both draught and
bottled. It is slightly stronger and also has a little more of the
characteristic stout bite.
- Guinness
Extra Stout/Guinness Original (bottled, available widely) is
stronger with even more stout bite. MJ reports this to be 4.8% abw,
6.0% abv, but one poster says that in advertising from Guinness
Imports, the strength is listed as 5.6%. This product is licensed for
production widely around the world.
- There is a strong
bottled version (Belgium and others) that is somewhat sweeter and
stronger (7.5% abv)
- Foreign
Extra Stout (primarily tropical countries) is also about 7.5% abv.
However, this is blend of Guinnesses, included one aged for three
months.
- In Nigeria, which bans barley, Guinness is made from
sorghum.
Q: Why does
the bottled Guinness taste so different than the draught or canned
"draught-flow" product?
A: (U.S./Canada
answer): These are two entirely different beers. There is bottled
Guinness is Guinness Extra Stout (brewed by Labatts and imported into
the US from Canada), while the others (cans and bottles with widgets)
are Guinness Draught. The Extra Stout uses more roast barley and has
somewhat higher IBUs (International Bitterness Units), resulting in a
harsher, sharper flavor. Which you prefer is a matter of personal
taste.
(Ireland answer): The
bottled product is bottle conditioned, meaning the presence of live
yeast. The yeast gives it a very different character.
Q: What's the
significance of the harp symbol on Guinness products?
A: Arthur
Guinness & Sons deliberately chose the harp symbol as its logo or
symbol to appeal to nationalist pride in Ireland. The harp is also a
symbol of Ireland., which appears on the back of their coinage. The
Irish Government and Guinness versions of the symbol are identical,
except for the fact that the Guinness Harp faces left, while the
official government version faces right.
The following is
un-substantiated, but interesting and supplied by Antony Courtney Antony.Courtney@cs.tcd.ie:"
At Trinity College Dublin, a complementary glass of Guinness is served
with Commons, the traditional evening meal for Scholars and Fellows of
the College (and other paying guests), served in the Dining Hall.
The Guinness for Commons is
provided to College Catering free of charge by Guinness. The
long-standing folklore explanation around the Commons table is that
this was due to an arrangement reached between Guinness and Trinity
College Dublin in the 17th Century. According to the explanation,
Trinity allowed Guinness to use the harp which appears in the Trinity
coat of arms as part of their logo, and in return Guinness agreed to
provide free Guinness for Commons in perpetuity. (Note that this is
unsubstantiated rumour, but one which has been around for quite some
time.)"
Q: What
products besides the various Guinnesses does Guinness produce?
A: Arthur
Guinness & Sons, (Parent Company: Diageo, the world's
largest alcoholic beverage conglomerant) also owns Smithwicks
(pronounced without the "w" as in "Smiddicks"), also sold as Kilkenny
in Canada and elsewhere. Rumor has it that the Kilkenny name is used to
make the ale sound more Irish in some markets. Others have suggested
that the Smithwick's name had been trademarked in some markets.
Guinness also owns Harp Lager
and at one time owned the now defunct Macardles
ales. In England they also market "Guinness Draft Bitter" which uses
the same draught-flow system and Guinness stout.
Bottle Conditioned Guinness
(Ireland) had similar specifications to the Draught Guinness, but the
presence of the yeast provides for a "...spicier, fruitier, drier, more
complex and lively, fresh character." (MJBC, 182) Bottled Guinness
(Britain) has similar specifications to the above two beers, but it is
pasteurized. All Malt Guinness (Continental Europe) is available both
draught and bottled. It is slightly stronger and also has a little more
of the characteristic stout bite. Guinness Extra Stout/Guinness
Original (bottled, available widely) is stronger with even more stout
bite. MJ reports this to be 4.8% abw, 6.0% abv, but one poster says
that in advertising from Guinness Imports, the strength is listed as
5.6%. This product is licensed for production widely around the world.
There is a strong bottled version (Belgium and others) that is somewhat
sweeter and stronger (7.5% abv) Foreign Extra Stout (primarily tropical
countries) is also about 7.5% abv. However, this is blend of
Guinnesses, included one aged for three months. In Nigeria, which bans
barley, Guinness is made from sorghum.
Q: Is there
anything I need to know when I go into a pub for a Guinness?
A: First, you
don't "go into a pub for a Guinness" A bird doesn't fly with one wing!
You always have two! One of the classic posts to the r.f.d.b newgroup
was Alan Clinton's "A guide for the un-initated to buying Guinness in
an Irish pub." It is reproduced in Appendix
I.
Q: What do
the numbers on the Guinness labels mean and why isn't there a set of
numbers on older Guinness bottle labels?
A: Take the
first two numbers and add 11. This was the year the batch of beer was
brewed. The remaining 3 numbers stand for the day and date. Guinness
stopped the date labels some time in the 1990s.
Ernest H. Joynt, III ejoynt@whoi.edu offered the
following information:
- Guinness Extra Stout (purchased in the US) L/A1
821212
- Guinness Foreign Extra Stout (made in Trinidad)
L/AU 771712
- Guinness Special Export Stout (8.0% abv, made in
Dublin) A/RM 571012
The letters and numbers preceding the six-digit number are actually
written with the first letter over the other two. For example, the
Guinness Extra Stout is "L over A1".
The Pub Draught Guinness ™ does not have this type of numbering on the
can. We do not know why.
Q: Is the
Guinness family still involved with the Guinness company?
A: The family
still has a large financial stake in Arthur Guinness & Son PLC, but
have not been directly involved in the management since 1992.
Q: Why are
there so many Irish pubs springing up?
A: Well,
there are two types of people in this world: Those who are Irish, and
those who want to be!
In fact, Guinness has set up a
business that will totally outfit an "Irish Pub"for a would-be
publican. All the publican has to to is provide the site and capital.
In Germany, there are new Irish pubs opening weekly. In the US,
Diageo/Guinness is involved financially with a chain of "Irish" pubs
called Fado. Some who confess they aren't fans of Fado call them
"plastic
Paddy pubs" do to their seemingly Disney-esque appearance and
atmosphere.
Q: Someone
told me that Guinness intentionally added sour Guinness to their beers.
Is that true?
A: Yes, part
of the process is to blend in some specially soured Guinness. The
following was extracted from the Homebrew Digest. I believe the
original author was Martin Lodahl, but I may be mistaken: "...they
have a series of huge oaken tuns dating back to the days before Arthur
Guinness bought the brewery, which they still use as fermentors for a
fraction of the beer. The tuns have an endemic population of
Brettanomyces, lactic acid bacteria and Lord knows what else, and beer
fermented in it sours emphatically. They pasteurize this and blend
small quantities of it with beer fermented in more modern vessels."
Q: I've heard
that Guinness contains oysters. Is that true?
A: No. At one
time, oyster shell may have been used as finings to rid the beer of
unwanted solids, but this was not in this century, and may not have
ever been done by Guinness. There are oyster stouts that contain
oyster, oyster extracts, etc.
Q: Doesn't
Guinness contain oatmeal?
A: No. It is
a rather common misconception that Guinness (and all other stouts)
contain oatmeal. Oatmeal Stout is a distinctive style stout. The
revivalist of this style was Samuel Smith's Brewery in Yorkshire,
England, at the request of its North American agent, Merchant du Vin of
Seattle. A few US microbreweries have attempted to brew Oyster Stouts.
Though, they have faced complaints by Conservative and Orthodox Jews
since shellfish like oysters isn't Kosher.
Q: Doesn't
Guinness contain {insert name of animal} {insert your favourite word
for urine}?
A: No. It is
not part of the formulation, and there is virtually no opportunity for
this to happen by chance. We cannot be as unequivocal about
Labudmilloorsons, however. ;-)
Q: What's the
proper thing to say when someone

buys you a Guinness?

gives you a
4-pack of Draught-flow cans?

gives you your own
cask?
A: Thank you!
Q: Is there a
Guinness smiley/emoticon?
A: (:-{d)
(licking the rich, creamy Guinness foam off the upper lip.)